Joe Manchin: “I have no doubt has the will to fight, and that are the Kurds.”

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

We’re not trying to start another party.

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.