Joe Manchin: “We can raise the revenues without raising taxes, by closing the loopholes----”

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

I will make a decision in January -- at the end of this year.