Joe Manchin: “As far as procurement, that seems to be your strong point. What would you do?”

We’re trying to build a true independent network.

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.