Joe Manchin: “Just a number of states have been affected beyond anybody's imagination.”

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We’re trying to build a true independent network.

We’re not trying to start another party.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.