Joe Manchin: “I find that extremely telling.”

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

The pledge is simply this: that you remain independent and not be part of the Democrat or Republican system.