Joe Manchin: “I think where I'm having a problem with the cost is, I remember the Gulf War.”

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

We’re trying to build a true independent network.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.