Joe Manchin actually said...

I said, we better find out what is going on, walked in there. And they're yelling and cheering that 12 are alive; 12 are alive. And I'm thin...

How that got misinterpreted or miscommunicated, I can't say.

I said, well, what is the correct? Do we have one, two, three, four? What -- how many? What is it? We just don't know for sure, is what I wa...

I said, if we can just give families information, Anderson, that's all I wanted. I said, let them know what's going on the best that you can...