Joe Manchin: “I would suggest that all of us--and I certainly include myself in this--need to go beyond the conventional wisdoms as we…”

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

We don't even have a budget anymore.