Joe Manchin: “I'm trying to understand because I would be probably more in tune with the environment of hunting and fishing and…”

We’re not trying to start another party.

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

The way the parties have weaponized the political process today, they make it impossible to have a 'D' or an 'R' next to your name and speak to the other side.