Joe Manchin: “It would be a heavy lift.”

I will make a decision in January -- at the end of this year.

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

We’re trying to build a true independent network.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.