Joe Manchin: “In my little State of West Virginia, when I was Governor, we had disaster plans, what was going to be subjected to…”

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

The way the parties have weaponized the political process today, they make it impossible to have a 'D' or an 'R' next to your name and speak to the other side.