Joe Manchin: “I believe we need to have a combination of spending reductions as well as revenue to get to the numbers.”

We’re not trying to start another party.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

The pledge is simply this: that you remain independent and not be part of the Democrat or Republican system.

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.