Joe Manchin: “And you think those could make it without the subsidies that we have given?”

We’re trying to get a person who can be committed to — and totally committed to – being an independent with an independent voice.

When you like both people and both sides, you can sit down with both sides, you can agree to disagree, you can try to find compromise and make things happen.

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

So you’re not making a commitment that you owe your soul to the company store, or basically to the parties, whether it be a D or an R, they’re going to have to earn your support, but the people will be much better off, and they’ll…