Joe Manchin: “I hope you would consider that.”

We got a runaway debt. We got inflation that's killing people. We've got an unsecured energy. We have a border that's out of control.

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

We’re not trying to start another party.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.