Joe Manchin: “I've said in my bill that there'll be no fine and no crime until January 1, 2015. But the bill still goes effect right…”

The pledge is simply this: that you remain independent and not be part of the Democrat or Republican system.

My observation, and recommendation from observation, would be, John, trust me, set yourself free and become an independent.

They don't believe in these extreme causes and going to the extreme mats and fighting each other and hating the other side.

We’re trying to build a true independent network.