Joe Manchin actually said...

But the reality is is the Federal Government is not giving any permits. We're not expanding. You can't build anything. You can't do a thing.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To all of you, thank you for being here.

So CCS is about the only viable option that we have right now?

But basically you all agree that the Federal Government has taken a position, everything stops, nothing happens unless CCS is implemented.