John Rockefeller actually said...

This is not like two equally powerful groups facing each other. This is this mammothly powerful group and this very small, fragile group in ...

I happen to be one of those people who favors a public plan.

It's a hundred million people. They're vulnerable. And therefore they deserve to be treated with respect and with care.

we need to treat the high-speed rail network as a national system, just like the interstate highway.