Jay Rockefeller: “Make no mistake. The ETS is not about the environment. It's about a new source of revenue for cash-strapped Europe.”

It is a really popular program.

one of the things that happened with the CBO scoring was that yes, there was a cost because you were keeping CHIP operating, but there was a savings because the children were not transferring into the Affordable Care Act, for example.

I am interested in the children who still have to be reached out to, in the Alabamas and West Virginias and Pennsylvanias and Ohios, et cetera.

You could see it, but you could not do anything about it.