06/16/2021
https://www.msnbc.com...
"To me, this is gobbledygook and what you need to be looking at is pretty basic in terms of measurement of effectiveness."
"That is marketing. What do you spend on recruitment?"
"I mean, is the media value what you spend on it?"
"Is the Administration at all, considering--I realize Keystone XL Pipeline is a different issue--but are we considering other pipelines to take some of the burden off the rail system?"