09/13/2021
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"So again, I am not trying to beat up on the witnesses here. I am just trying to point out the futility--and we are seeing it."
"This has some real potential for some real dollar savings."
"This is not really the sexiest subject for a hearing."
"I just want to suggest, I have sat through enough hearings now in 2½ years of how do you reform government."