Ron Johnson actually said...

"I would suggest that. Certainly in the private sector, if I needed to make sure there was greater efficiency in a particular department, we did it with their budget."

"Are you, coming from the private sector, as frustrated as I am in terms of the lack of good, solid, basic financial information to be able to make these decisions in order to drive these types of perf..."

"Talk, encourage. What about management actually directing people to use something that works so we save taxpayer money?"

"Is that a piece of legislation that is required? I mean, I would think the OMB could basically force agencies to do so..."