Ron Johnson actually said...

Have you developed an estimate of how many dollars or how many Americans, how many dollars have Swiss bank accounts?

OK. In the morning hearing, what I was trying to establish was kind of the obvious in terms of, why does Switzerland have this very huge ban...

What percent of the U.S.-based accounts or U.S.-owned accounts do you think that would reveal?

But that is going to require us to actually have knowledge that there may be some fraudulent activity occurring, correct or not?