Ron Johnson actually said...

Because we do actually have a law, the Antilobbying Act, makes it a Federal crime to use appropriated money to influence, quote, 'in any man...

I have done an awful lot--and by the way, you have been helpful--touring the timber land and learning an awful lot in the last 5 years.

Well, in my background memo, one of the things the staff listed for me a number of different standards.

You were talking about how the agencies, particularly over time, have really become, I would say, a little more vague in their regulations b...