Ron Johnson actually said...

I am not interested in the way Congress figures it. What does your profit and loss look like?

So wouldn't that be the policy prescription, the first policy prescription is make sure that, rather than have the taxpayers subsidize that,...

So, total, what does Amtrak lose a year, then, in total?

So, in other words, the Federal Government pumps money in, you count that as revenue, and then you still lose $500 million.