Ron Johnson actually said...

"Talk, encourage. What about management actually directing people to use something that works so we save taxpayer money?"

"Are you, coming from the private sector, as frustrated as I am in terms of the lack of good, solid, basic financial information to be able to make these decisions in order to drive these types of perf..."

"I would suggest that. Certainly in the private sector, if I needed to make sure there was greater efficiency in a particular department, we did it with their budget."

"Wouldn't that be a pretty effective control? I mean, we talk about all these controls in theory, but the most effective control is how much money do you have to spend?"