Ron Johnson actually said...

That is what I am trying to find here. What percentage of people that haven't transitioned is the real problem?

OK, I know there has been some discussion, I think, action, of course, as to how we are going to actually regulate broadband.

I apologize for not being here for all of the testimony, but Mr. Banks, I am a numbers guy.

But again, we are talking about we have got a 5 percent problem here.