09/21/2015
https://www.congress.gov...
"Then who determines that, in 2011, for example, that 61 percent of the $9.7 billion that was paid by the MACs, who determines that 61 percent of that were improper payments?"
"OK. So what is the sample size on the CERT?"
"the consumer of the product, by and large, does not care what something costs because they really do not have that much skin in the game."
"How do you prevent that going forward? It is a very difficult issue."