Ron Johnson actually said...

We just put this chart up here. This is what Senator Grassley was talking about. I mean, this is the futility of trying to punish individual...

It's way too complex, right? So, when you have something really complex, that's something that can be taken advantage of, correct?

One principle that we should abide by is wherewithal to pay.

We do a terrible job social and economically engineering through the tax code. So, stop doing it.