Ron Johnson actually said...

"I would think that would be a natural coordination between ISO certification and then also the insurance market."

"I am new to this issue. Are there penalties for noncompliance?"

"I do not see how spending money on an audit to determine how bad you really are is a waste of money."

"Get off of this idea that we are not going to conduct an audit until we know we are going to have a clean audit, and instead, use an audit as a real management tool, which is what it really should be."