03/29/2023
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"I take this very, very seriously. Mr. Hodel, I would posit the reason that your programs are so incredibly successful is specifically because you do not receive any government funding."
"People on the street who you see--and your heart goes out to them--they are recipients of public assistance"
"That was a mistake"
"G.T. Thompson says that he really wants these programs to be a hand up, not a handout."