Derrick Van Orden: “I do not trust that. I do not.”

He just said that they trusted the departments to, you know, instead of using a cudgel to use a scalpel to get rid of people that are unproductive.

I want to see the actual numbers that you submitted and what they actually paid, because we are not doing this anymore.

This is an epidemic.

This is a bald faced LIE. @SenOssoff had absolutely nothing to do with this bill, and I mean nothing.