10/23/2011
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"it has to stop."
"Well, we have had lots of discussions over my time on technology transfer and what works and what doesn't."
"I think it's important for the Department to reach out to all stakeholders to get their input in advance of any decisions."
"I think provocation comes from, you know, this kind of hacking of a power plant or a pipeline or something of that nature."