Jim McDermott actually said...

In 1992, I had a memorable discussion with a manufacturer. He was the H.R. person from a major automobile company.

It is not because of taxes we have got problems in productivity.

We have yet to see comprehensive jobs agenda, let alone a comprehensive manufacturing plan.

So what I hear you saying, all of you, is you in the corporate sector want to keep control of your own health care costs to your employees.