Jaime Beutler actually said...

Well, this is one of the things I was told was, 'Well, maybe there is more sensitive environmental or tribal issues in this area, as compare...

And let me jump in on that because I think you are right.

I don't think safety and our small business owners are mutually exclusive. I mean to assume that is irrational.

how the President calls this a $2 billion mandate and yet you are telling me it is $2 billion plus.