Jaime Beutler actually said...

And let me jump in on that because I think you are right.

I don't think safety and our small business owners are mutually exclusive. I mean to assume that is irrational.

how the President calls this a $2 billion mandate and yet you are telling me it is $2 billion plus.

We have tremendous resources in our area. I'm not just talking about the forests. I'm not just talking about the species. I'm talking about ...