Jaime Beutler actually said...

So that is money taken out of the industry.

But to take the money out of the industry that is in large part small business and private, jobs come from there.

Absolutely. My point is, having worked on development for a small nonprofit, you don't get the award unless you can demonstrate you can fulf...

So I don't understand why--what we were told was you are going to stop them leading up to the vote and I don't know if it was because there ...