Jaime Beutler actually said...

I mean it is--I almost wish our problems were with permitting, you know, the more onerous types of projects.

Well, this is one of the things I was told was, 'Well, maybe there is more sensitive environmental or tribal issues in this area, as compare...

And let me jump in on that because I think you are right.

I don't think safety and our small business owners are mutually exclusive. I mean to assume that is irrational.