Jaime Herrera Beutler: “I am a huge fan of Pell. I am a big supporter of Pell.”

The data on that is rolling in, and it is not promising.

My opinion is this mandate is going to increase the cost of Federal construction projects, and it is going to curb competition.

Let this be a reminder that when it comes to certain organs like the one this gentleman needed or other organ donation, both deceased and living donation remains a really viable option.

You obviously worked these issues. Not all Secretaries do, to be honest.