Jaime Herrera Beutler: “I recognize you have less funds. I mean, if you look at the Forest Service budget over the last 25 years, it has been…”

I think my challenge is, is that they limit the pool of qualified bidders primarily to one stream of bidders.

The data on that is rolling in, and it is not promising.

My opinion is this mandate is going to increase the cost of Federal construction projects, and it is going to curb competition.

You obviously worked these issues. Not all Secretaries do, to be honest.