Doc Hastings actually said...

I am struck by how many people, liberal luminaries, say they believe in evolution and then spend the rest of their life trying to prevent it...

state, local, and tribal governments, and many private landowners not only care about species conservation, they're doing it now.

The ESA has been used as a tool for litigation, and how skillful lawyers are benefiting much more than species.

We have preserved some species, but I would tell you we can do so much better than we have if people would get off their ideological horses.