I want to quickly point out, again, this doesn't make any difference in terms of whether or not these projects get funded. Then, second, I think the gentleman is correct. This is a debate about whether or not it makes sense to spend money on the wall. But I just want to emphasize two points about that: One, regardless how you feel about the wall, you should not be in favor of being able to simply take the money out of the Pentagon to pay for it. Second, the border crisis that we have is not going to be even remotely alleviated by a wall. The border crisis that we have right now is asylum seekers pouring up to the border and turning themselves in. Now, there are all kinds of challenges associated with that, no question, and all kinds of policies that have led to that happening. I think it is absolutely shameful right now the way the United States of America is handling this. So many people are seeking refuge from violence and horrific conditions, and we are treating them horribly; and there is a lot that we need to do to change that. But building a wall will not stop asylum seekers. It is a billion- dollar waste of money focusing on a campaign promise instead of focusing on the actual problem that we have. But, again, that is a debate that Congress should have. They should not have it out of the Pentagon budget. This is the wrong place for it.…
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