Howard Dean actually said...

And it started with Trump, who capitalized on people`s fears and ignorance. And then it`s been continued by people like DeSantis and Greg Ab...

A lot of the people who are against vaccination, I think, are not particularly anti-science. I think they`re just angry people. Most of them...

the way we have gone about it is completely crazy.

I think they made a big gamble on politics. They thought they could rally the anti-vaxxers and their -- and that was their constituency.