David Roe actually said...

I can flatly tell you that. I wouldn't put my company and my employees at that risk, because I might bankrupt and they may lose their jobs.

I think it is a great option and I think it is the one we have to have if we are going to sustain future benefits for our people.

I think this is essential for the survival of the multiemployer pension system.

Yes. And I'll very quickly, in my little bit of time remaining, is before what happened in a defined benefit plan during an up year of the m...