David Roe actually said...

I want to know that he can go there and that the surgeons know that the equipment is sterile.

I think if you don't, you've got to replace your medical center director. I mean, that's so simple and basic that it doesn't need to go a VI...

I find it amazing that we're even having this meeting today. I mean, it's astonishing to me.

I have been out and talked to some benefits folks and the RAMP program seems to work; it is convincing.