03/04/2013
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"I kind of feel like Churchill was right on this. You can always count on America to get it right after they try everything else first."
"I think that the President should step up and say we're going to put these two department heads together and they're going to work on one system."
"If we're going to spend billions of dollars, we ought to go deep in and convert both systems."
"What has got to happen is we have got to have one system, or 20 years from now we're going to be sitting here having exactly the same conversation."