David Roe actually said...

I just can't imagine a more important paradigm or model, you know, in any trade, in any vocation.

I would contend that every American is entitled to two things: number one, an opportunity, and number two, the right to define success for t...

But is that a system we want to continue at the VA? Because the VA is a huge system, and treating millions of people, and not thousands, but...

Now I agree with that, it would do that. I'm not saying that you should do that. We have a situation now where there's 30-something thousand...