Tim Kaine actually said...

This epidemic is really one that is going to require a comprehensive approach, and part of that is going to include removing the stigma arou...

I want to make sure folks who are here can see this, too, and, so, kind of make it personal for the rest of the hearing.

You are saying, not only--you are saying folks were not just not trained, in some instances, they really were mistrained.

we have to have robust components for those kinds of programs, prevention and education and treatment.