Tim Kaine actually said...

Policymakers do not have their arms around the consequences of growing longevity.

Would it be possible to ask one more?

But if you had a balanced package where you did a little bit of both, where you do tax reform that increases revenue, and when you tackle so...

I think we all know the answer is both, and if you did both, then the magnitude of the changes to revenue and spending are a good bit smalle...