Tim Kaine actually said...

As we work on maybe a bipartisan and focused strategy, strong demand that that MOU when it is renegotiated includes very significant provisi...

I think the worst are full of passionate intensity in a very sharp degree. And I think the question is whether the best have conviction.

That is a painful and un-American situation that we should not tolerate and it should not be part of our discourse.

I apologize for being late. Was at another subcommittee hearing, so I may ask questions that you've already covered.