Tim Kaine actually said...

I believe somebody is going to pull the trigger on them, and then we are all going to be sitting here wringing our hands.

I think we can give them an avenue out, but they have to decide to take it and, sadly, I do not think they have yet made that choice.

I really encourage diligence in showing us what it will look like if sequester is permanent.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To the witnesses, welcome. You might have mentioned this, but I just want to pin it down.